politics

Nov. 5th, 2007 01:32 am
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This is chilling after having just seen Cabaret and noticing similarities between the depiction of Nazis coming to power and the current political climate in America. Thanks [livejournal.com profile] desultorie.

Re: The Ominous Parallels

Date: 2007-11-06 12:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serafaery.livejournal.com
Hey cool, you're all like, informed and stuff!

This makes me happy, your comment, because it was kind of my intuitive response to the video. Similar to "zeitgeist" and other conspiracy-theory type pieces, they always are engaging and exciting at first, but leave a lot of holes in the plot.

So I really liked listening to her, but don't think that it's all as urgent and dire as she seems to think it is. And what I came away with is pretty much exactly what you seem to be saying - that we should guard against and fight for our freedom and not just sit back and allow ourselves to be under surveilance or held without charges. I don't see any reason to panic about Hitler Junior coming to power. I did catch her a few times overstating issues, too, which made me suspicious. Were people really forced to drink gross liquids by the TSA at gunpoint? Not exactly.

Re: The Ominous Parallels

Date: 2007-11-06 09:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] desultorie.livejournal.com
I would call the flagrant abuses of human rights & our own laws to be more than "tiny incremental compromises" in our individual liberties. I would also term the massive unbalancing of executive power more than marginal.

I'm sorry, but I loathed zeitgeist from the first few minutes, and find her arguments far more coherent & rational. I know, personally & publicly, of many outrageous crimes, committed by several branches of law enforcement, that endanger Americans everywhere.

Ed: Sorry about fixing this twice, but my fingers stray when I'm impassioned.

Re: The Ominous Parallels

Date: 2007-11-07 12:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] serafaery.livejournal.com
See this is why I always try to avoid policiticicics in my journal - because a) I don't know enough to make really informed comments about anything and b) I always get upset when people start to feel offended/things get heated/whatever. I like the video and I watched it like 5 times so I'm keeping it up, but yeah. Sorry if I was offensive or anything.

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